This thread is for discussion on story arcs and characterization within the Walking Dead TV Show.
This can be any character from any episode or any arc that has been in the TV show so far.
Let's discuss anything you want. What arcs worked? What arcs failed?
We can talk about child actors, anything you want on characters. How did they work or fail?
What really interests me with this show is how story arcs contribute (or not) to characterization.
Here's the first topic: Lizzie
A great discussion was started in the comment section of the S4E14 review regarding
the development of Lizzie Samuel's character.
"My complaint is more about how the writers seem
to be asking the audience to do part of their job.
Is anyone watching TWD from Lizzie's apparent perspective?
Shouldn't they try to bridge the gap between us and her?"
My thoughts on this:
I agree that yes, that would come in the writing. BTW: I am not one of the show writers, just a fan of the show like all of you
A bit of background:
To provide some context to this discussion, Lizzie’s mental condition story arc has been building up slowly since the beginning of the fourth season to give it the impact and weight it brought.
There’s consistency here. You can even see this mental state through:
1. Lizzie naming walkers (S4E1, ’30 Days’.)
2. Lizzie running off crying because Nick the walker was killed (S4E2, ‘Infected’.)
3. Lizzie beckons the Henry walker like a dog on a prison gangway (S4E5, ‘Internment’.)
4. Her slaughter of baby rabbits and near smothering of Judith (S4E, ‘Inmates’.)
Then of course there’s the rats and animal dissection that is documented here:
I look at those events as creating what I call a 'gradual arc'.
I have seen writers on different shows use this technique where gradually the bread crumb actions form clues which become more obvious as time passes.
It creates intrigue and speculation until at last the arc is fully there and needs to be dealt with.
This has to be done carefully because if you reveal too much and don't do anything with it for a while viewer's memories go stale. Here's some examples
of stuff that I thought may have been brought up too early if the intent was to reintroduce them:
What immediately comes to mind is Morgan. I felt a little vague when they unmasked him in S3E12 'Clear.' I had to go back and rewatch S1E1 and S1E2 of TWD to fully appreciate the efforts in 'Clear.' The walkie talkie worked as a prop, however again even to get its impact I had to rewatch S1E2.
The Morales Family. A group of survivors we last saw in the first season that set off west for Birmingham, Alabama. To Robin's point, if they were for instance at Terminus when Rick's group arrives will anyone ever remember them (amongst us viewers)? We would have to go back to S1E5 to remember who they were because it's been that long. Rick BTW gave Morales a radio as well. I don't recall him trying to reach out to Morales like he did with Morgan in the early season one episodes.
What happens the moment you show Lizzy is behind all the rodents at the prison and that she's
What do you lose?
Well...You definitely would lose the suspicions that something was really wrong with her however you couldn't quite put your finger on it.
You also lose the possibility that there was a plan in place to sabotage the prison from within by drawing walkers to the fence with rats to help bring the fence down.
What do you gain?
Allowing us to know Lizzie was behind those things much earlier (and not the rest of our characters) would have created dramatic irony.
It would have also better established the theory that Lizzie was the one behind Karen and David's killings.
It certainly would have made better any suspicions Tyreese had about the dissections he found
more palpable (before the prison battle.)
Perhaps they thought that's been done enough already or maybe they never thought of that.
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Walking Dead: All About Daryl: http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/160
Walking Dead: Bob Stookey http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/167
Walking Dead: Character Development through Story Arcs: http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/168
Walking Dead: A Cup of Joe: http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/169
Walking Dead: Daryl's Dilemma: http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/editpost/467
Walking Dead: The Funeral Home: http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/161
Walking Dead: Greene Family Thread is Waning
Walking Dead: Luke, Molly and the Black Shoe: http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/159
Walking Dead: On Frank Darabont: http://www.thetvcritic.org/blog/frank-darabont-and-the-walking-dead/
Walking Dead: Psycho Lizzie: http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/156
Walking Dead: Rhetorical Questions you have posed to yourself you would like to share with everyone (comments?) http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/152
Walking Dead: Robin Reads the Walking Dead: http://www.thetvcritic.org/blog/robin-reads-the-walking-dead/
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Walking Dead: Season Four Final Episode 'A' Speculation:
Walking Dead: Show Axioms: http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/151
Walking Dead: The Silver Spoon: http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/162
Walking Dead: Terminus eh?: http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/157
Walking Dead: The Walking Dead Vs. Breaking Bad: http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/43
Walking Dead: The Train Tunnel Scene (deconstructed): http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/172
Walking Dead: Walking Dead Novels: http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/170
Walking Dead: Walking Dead Spinoff News: http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/editpost/508
Walking Dead: What is the Walking Dead to you? http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/150
Walking Dead: Wimpy Walkers: http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/177
Walking Dead: Writers of all the episodes with our ratings http://www.thetvcritic.org/forums/other-tv-shows/show/166