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    Summary (with on the fly thoughts mixed in):

    Deanna, Reg and Spencer sit around a coffee table in their house in the compound, and Deanna puts on a CD of Nine Inch Nails ‘Somewhat Damaged’
    (Indeed they are. Perhaps this was Aidan’s favorite song? Unclear.) Reg tells Deanna to turn it off.

    Carol bakes a casserole with an anonymous condolences note and leaves it at Deanna’s doorstep. Deanna leaves the casserole there and brings in the note and burns it after reading it.
    (Clearly she doesn’t trust Rick or his people. Perhaps she feels the casserole could be poisoned?)

    Sasha picks off walkers while Daryl and Aaron spot someone's camp nearby the compound.

    Nicholas lies to Deanna in an on camera confession that Glenn distracted Aidan.

    Intercut with this is Glenn reviewing what happened with Rick. Glenn says he saw the grenades and tried to stop Aidan from shooting them and that Nicholas was going to run away.
    (The truth: Glenn omitted that he just ran up and started wailing on Nicholas for his actions that led to Noah's death and then realized from Eugene he was trying to run away.)

    Nicholas lies to Deanna saying he wanted to stay but Glenn and Eugene wanted to leave and he wasn’t going to leave Tara.

    Glenn tells Rick that they made Nicholas stay and when they got to the front door he told Nicholas to hold the door; however he panicked which resulted in Noah getting eaten in front of him.

    Nicholas tells Deanna that Glenn was hitting the glass and pushing his door open and that they were going to kill him or they were trying to or they just didn’t care and that they were responsible for Noah’s death; not him.
    (There is some truth there; Glenn said he was going to try and break the glass and couldn't. This led to the door be pushed open slightly on Nicholas' side, however everyone rectified that. Nicholas started the tug of the war afterwards that led to Noah's death.)

    Deanna was confused by this and said you all came back together, how did that happen?
    (We weren’t given Nicholas response.)

    She tells Nicholas no guns and he cannot go outside the walls and neither can Glenn until she gets to the bottom of what has happened. Nicholas gets defensive and feels Rick and company have to go because they are not like the Alexandrians and that she can see that too. She is quick to point out that he doesn’t know what she sees and that she sees a great deal.

    Glenn tells Rick that they (the Alexandrians) don’t know what they are doing and that they can show the Alexandrians. Rick doesn’t know if they can handle that yet and they haven’t caught up to that point yet and this justifies how their group has to be there and doesn’t have to answer to the Alexandrian’s rules. Glenn tries to make him understand that they are all one and the same and how Noah believed in Alexandria.

    Carol meets with Rick and tells him she sent a casserole to Deanna to keep up appearances they are civil folks. She pushes him to see if he’s spoken with Pete yet. She reveals details of the abuse Sam and Jessie have suffered at the hands of Pete. She persuades him to do something about it because she knows Rick likes Jessie and knows Rick doesn’t want to see her dead.

    Pete walks up to Rick in a drunken stupor and Rick tells him to take a hike; Pete can sense Rick knows he’s a drunk.

    Rosita tells Michonne Tara is just holding on and tells her that Sasha has been up in the tower for a while and Abraham has taken over and she hasn’t come back (and nobody has seen her), so they go looking to see if she’s okay.

    Rick meets with Deanna at the graveyard in front of the graves of the four people who died out on a food run (due to Nicholas and Aidan) .

    He tells her they have a problem with Pete and she confides she hoped it would get better. Deanna’s willing to look the other way because he’s a surgeon.
    (Ironically and strangely Rick isn’t willing to look the other way although Pete is trying to save Tara’s life; someone who should mean more to him than Jessie.)

    Rick reiterates he’s beating his wife and he needs to be separated from her. Deanna asks 'What if that doesn’t work?' and Rick states then "We have to kill him.' Deanna asserts that 'We don’t kill people and that is uncivilized.' Rick asserts there is a new morality of warning someone to stop or else they end up getting killed. Deanna asserts back exile as the extreme measure.
    (Haven't either of them ever heard of a jail cell? That works too!)

    Rick states that Pete (or anyone in that position) would eventually come back posing a vulnerability to the compound (because he would bring a force and know the compounds strengths and weaknesses.) She reiterates that they don’t execute people and not to suggest it ever again and that thinking doesn’t belong here. He continues to state that 'people are dying now and there are times like now you can decide who and when or those things are decided for you.' Deanna reiterates that it already was and if he did anything (that’s a warning) she would send him (Rick) away.

    Michonne and Rosita try to track Sasha and find walkers that have been assassinated in the back of the head, so they conclude she is hunting down walkers.

    Carl tries to track Enid and she hears him. He says he’s afraid of her (when really he’s attracted to her) and it appears they are bonding because they are both very much a like (they grew up in the apocalypse.)

    Glenn confronts Nicholas telling him those four lives and Noah’s death he has to carry in his conscience the rest of his life and put him in his place about his abilities to fend for himself and others. He tells him to stay behind the wall if he’s going to survive. Nicholas get’s offended and feels threatened and Glenn tells him he’s saving his life (not threatening him.)

    Carl and Enid bond on the fact that when they are out there beyond the wall they remember how they are supposed to feel and that’s reality and the bad things that they both have been through. Enid admits to be as scared of Carl as he is of her.

    Rosita and Michonne catch up to Sasha who takes on most of a zombie horde on her own. Rosita and Michonne end up getting pinned down with her and they defend themselves and Sasha who gets offended by this and insists she didn’t ask for their help. Michonne sees herself inside of Sasha from her days when she walked amongst the dead and then she snapped. Sasha remembers telling Noah he wouldn’t make it. Perhaps she feels guilty for that.

    Darryl and Aaron just miss encountering an apparently very dangerous group of humans and find the remains of walkers hacked up with their torso and heads missing. (Like the ones that were in Noah’s family compound.) They find the remains of a poor tortured woman lashed to a tree who was torn apart by walkers with a W carved into her head (apparently when she was alive.) Darryl puts her down as she turns right there.

    Rick confronts Jessie in her garage about Pete’s abusive behavior towards her. She tells him to stay out of her business and he tells her she will end up dead. She reiterates she can take care of herself and closes the garage door on him. Rick opens the front door and goes in and tells her that Sam asked for a gun to protect her. She tells him he shouldn’t be there. He tells her if she doesn’t fight she will die and he doesn’t want her to die. She questions why he cares so much about her. He says he can do that for her and her boys. She asks if he would do that for anyone else and he says no.

    Pete enters the room asking Rick to leave. Rick says that it is Pete and him that are going to leave. A fight breaks out and Rick and Pete fly through the front window out onto the street. A crowd gathers. Carl tries to stop Rick and he’s pushed away. Jessie tries to stop Pete and Pete hits her in front of everyone. Deanna tells them all to stop and Rick pulls a gun out. Rick takes a moment during this puerile display to make a speech to her about how the way she is running things has gotten people killed and that needs to change. (He looked like a bloody fool.) Michonne knocks Rick out on the back of the head.


    How are different people trying in this episode?:

    Nicholas: Isn’t trying to make things work at all. He's isn't open to learning from Rick's group and he’s trying to cover up his incompetence and figure out a way to get rid of Rick’s crew.

    Deanna: Seems to be trying to be diplomatic about Rick and crew treating everyone on an individual basis, however she does look at them also as a group. I think she believes Nicholas hasn’t been truthful to her about what happened with Aidan. She’s trying to see things from all sides. However, Rick has pushed her to a limit.

    Sasha: Is trying to work through her depression, anger and maintaining her edge while trying to live within the protected walls of Alexandria.

    Michonne: Is trying hard to assimilate. She sees where she’s been through Sasha. She seems to be the best balanced.

    Carol: Although she’s been a social infiltrator she is trying to make what is socially acceptable for her the truth for everyone else. She pushed Rick to go after Pete because she knew he liked Jesse and she didn't want what happened to her with Ed to happen with Jessie.

    Glenn: Tries to see everyone as one group (Alexandrians and Rick’s family.) They are just in different phases of being able to deal with the outside world.

    Rick: Was trying to look out for his group. Now he appears to be trying to look out for his own interests (Jessie). Perhaps that's Sheriff Rick looking out for a battered wife; or it's the Shane in Rick looking out for a mate (regardless of the consequences to her family; his group's safety or Tara's life.) He's definitely trying Deanna's leadership skills and patience. He might be exiled at this point. I fully expect Deanna to make those intentions clear to everyone.

    The season ender fast approaches. It’s going to be a long one (1 1/2 hours). It sounds like Deanna is going to have it out with Rick and company finally. Rick will probably be told he has to leave and the others can decide to go or stay with him. This seems like the most logical outcome of what we saw. I hope I am wrong because this scenario has been done in other TV shows before. It's a bit predictable.

    Of course (if this plays out) I believe the Wolves will put a quick end to that storyline and that will bring everyone together leaving us with a cliffhanger.

    So what we will end up losing all these wonderful different dynamics being built up of different peoples ability to cope with the current outside world.

    My prediction is it will be Daryl and Aaron first encountering the group that has been carving W’s into people who become Walkers. That will bring everyone’s perception of a real threat equally. Then they will look to the most experience people who are able to be equipped to deal with that threat (Rick) for guidance just before he gets thrown out of the compound for good. I hope I am wrong, however that’s how it seems to be playing out.


    *W’s carved on people and Zombies foreheads * - No doubt the Wolves mentioned in the graffiti back in the Episode where Tyreese died. The poor woman who turned and Darryl showed mercy had a ‘W’ on her forehead. These monsters lashed her to a tree; carved a ‘W’ into her forehead; and then watched zombies pull her apart. They butchered the zombies keeping the torsos (just like the ones in the truck at Noah’s family compound.)

    *Clearing out walkers on your own*. I am guessing that’s either working through your sorrow or anger by taking it out on the dead. Michonne found that it just left herself feeling hollow inside ultimately. The same thing could be said of Morgan, however it made him paranoid and crazy. Tyreese did that once I believe. It helped him cope with his anxieties.


    *Carl has a girlfriend! They seem very well suited for each other. She feels comfortable or more together outside the walls just like him.

    *I actually loved all the dynamics of all the different people. Each person in their own way was trying to make things work; coping with the apocalypse while dealing with each other. However, we will probably shift off of this since we are at season end there has to be a cliff hanger to hold us over until October.

    *It appears there is a disagreement about the codes of law and responsibilities of justices of the peace. A clash between a man who evolved into judge, jury and executioner; and someone who apparently hasn't had to deal with the execution part of things.


    *Tara was in bad shape. It would have been good to see Pete working on Tara. Get Eugene’s reactions to her condition. It would have also given Pete’s character more depth as far as his competence and worth. Him being a surgeon was kind of shoe horned into conversations with Rick and Jessie and Deanna. It would have also made stopping Rick from killing Pete more impactful. They could have had Michonne seeing Pete work on Tara and then have her knock out Rick. It would have made more sense because that is a complex situation.

    *Rick seemed to fall pretty fast for Jessie and boiled over pretty quickly about Pete’s abuse of Jessie and Sam. That moved a bit too fast for me.

    There is an inconsistency with listening to Carol:
    He didn't fall for Carol's use of death in 'Indifference' dealing with infectious Karen and David back in Season 4 to protect everyone from harm. He was also behind strong walls in that episode (the Prison, so the walls of Alexandria are not the catalyst). Why was Carol able to persuade him to employ death as a solution this time and he fell for it?

    What happened to his pragmatic approach to dealing with folks in Alexandria from a group perspective? We only saw him care as individual for Jessie once he had a drink inside of him at a party. What happened to wash away all his concerns for his group and make him focus on his own needs? Why does he care so much for Jessie? Is it just the sheriff inside of him that just wants to keep her from getting killed by Pete? I would have thought he would have struggled with that because Tara’s life was at stake. I know he had mixed feelings about Tara due to her being with the Governor, however I would have thought he would have more feelings about her than Jessie whom he just met. After all, Tara’s family right?

    *We lost an opportunity to find out how Maggie feels about Gabriel and what she’s seen while working closely with Deanna. I am kind of surprised Rick wasn’t spending a lot of time with her trying to learn what Deanna is thinking and to figure out as a group what their next move will be.


    Will Tara live?

    Who does the title of the episode refer to? Try what? Is it try to fit into the social fabric that is at Alexandria? Is it try to make thinks work for the Alexandrians with Rick’s group?

    Will Pete be separated from his family so he doesn't harm them anymore?

    Will Olivia confront Carol about her chocolate thefts?

    Does Rick and company face banishment now?
    How much does Deanna really need these people?
    If they end up not being banished, is there some hidden reason other than she's very diplomatic?

    Why didn't either Deanna or Rick try to throw Pete in a jail or holding cell? If they don't have one, then build one. That was kind of perplexing to me. Both of them thought of extremes in punishment rather than something where they can use him at least while he is punished. You can tell him that he faces exile or jail while serving as the compound's surgeon for his crimes. That works too.

    These W carved people and walkers are becoming more frequent. Who are these humans and why do they need to carve up and take Zombie torsos and torture other humans?
    They sound like bad news (judging from the poor woman lashed to the tree with her entrails being eaten out by zombies.)

    Do the Wolves contain some of the people Deanna exiled in the past from Alexandria?

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