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Episode 4 - Cherokee Rose

8 March 2013

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Synopsis: With Carl recovering Hershel expects Rick to move his people on. Rick asks him to reconsider. Dale finds a Walker trapped in a well and the group try to pull him out. Glen and Maggie go to the local pharmacy and end up having sex. Darryl is the only one fit to go searching for Sophia and he finds some potential clues. Lori takes a pregnancy test.

The Good:
Maggie seducing Glen in the pharmacy was a much needed light moment and led to a couple of genuine laugh lines (see Best Moment). Darryl's humanisation continued as he searches for Sophia and comforts Carol. The after effects of shooting Otis weighed clearly on Shane and I liked his warnings to Andrea about how much tougher it is to shoot a person than a target.

The discussion between Rick and Hershel over where the group would go next was interesting. We have now seen three separate groups of humans (remember the gang in Atlanta from 104) that have managed to survive. So it's not silly for a character like Hershel to suggest that they go their separate ways and find different places to live as they wait for the Walkers to die off. However things do seem bleak enough that it's also not mad to suggest that everyone would be better off if they stuck together.

The Bad:
Following on from that though is the question of how long would it take for a Walker to die? Back in Atlanta we saw a Walker down in the sewer feeding on a rat and in the woods this season a Walker had eaten animals to survive. It would seem like a Walker can go on eating and breathing like any human. However we then get a Walker who has fallen down a well and is still surviving. Surely he should have starved by now? His bloated appearance seemed to indicate that he had been in the water a very long time. It's all a big vague and leaves you wondering quite what the survivors are up against.

It also leads to situations where the show and the characters look really dumb. The bloated Walker looked silly to me. He no longer resembled a dead human and seemed more like a demon from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I don't really understand how he was supposed to have turned into that.

Still that wasn't quite as bad as the plan to lower Glen down the well to lasso him. That was a terrible, terrible idea and Glen should never have agreed to it. Surely they should have exhausted more plans before putting someone's life in such danger. The dramatic fall that then followed felt entirely manufactured and silly. I thought the whole idea was a big mistake. I don't think it helped Glen's character either. I had forgotten that his role back in Atlanta was to sneak in and out undetected. He seems so timid now that his bravery in the face of Walkers doesn't blend well with everything else we've seen from him.

This episode couldn't escape the criticisms which have been levelled at this season. The plot doesn't have to move forward dramatically for the character interactions to be more interesting. T-Dog and Dale revisit their earlier conversation on the highway, as do Andrea and Shane. Rick's never ending guilt continues to hang around his neck and Carol has nothing else to talk about but Sophia. It's not as if those moments don't deserve attention but the script didn't attempt to introduce anything new.

Did we need to hear Lori peeing?

The Unknown: Did Darryl find one of Sophia's sleeping places or someone else's?

I don't see why Rick would choose now to take off his Sherriff's badges. What is it about this moment that makes him think civilisation has gone or that he doesn't deserve to lead anymore? I suppose maybe it just hit him that there was no point in wearing them anymore but it felt out of context.

My sense of how much time has passed on the show isn't very strong. However I assume Lori's baby has to be Shane's. Obviously within the story that will be the problem and I can't say it's a great development. I knew that the affair would come out eventually but in a depressing show that badly needs some lightness this feels like more misery being heaped upon good people.

Best Moment: The idea that Maggie and Glen would have sex in a pharmacy without much of a flirtation makes sense in a world where human interaction is thin on the ground. When she tells him what they are about to do, he responds "Really? Why?" which was pretty funny. Even better though was her cutting him off as they rode home together with a simple "Don't spoil it."

Since Carl got shot the plot has ground to a halt. That's not a problem when there is good character stuff going on but at the moment there isn't. There were glimpses of it here but in general this feels like a poor adaption of the comic. When reading a comic your imagination fills in the 10 minute conversations that characters have that you don't see. On TV we need to see them.



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  • Just an okay episode this time around, again slowing things down this time to a fault.

    Now that we have reached 3 days of Sophia lost, hopefully we can move on as she is most likely dead.

    I am not enjoying the direction that the character of Rick is going through, he should be thankful that Carl is alive and be thinking about his next few moves.

    Biggest gripe: Lori goes off to take her test and brings a knife, and it didn't appear that Glenn and Maggie brought anything. Lori bringing that knife had confused me, I actually thought she was going to attack someone, I really got confused by that little detail.

    I think the show will improve, especially once we get past this "search for Sophia" arc.

    Posted by Ben F. , 13/11/2011 2:51am (7 years ago)

  • Any thoughts on what the "secrets" at the farm house are?

    It's pretty clear that there's something going on there underneath the surface.

    Posted by Aaron, 09/11/2011 4:25pm (7 years ago)

  • With such a large cast (which I'm sure will only grow as they find more survivors...granted I know it will also dwindle at times when there are deaths) I feel like the strategy they have right now of giving everyone in the show at least a good 5 minutes worth of story might actually be hampering character progression.

    As a showrunner/writer it must be near impossible to allow yourself to ignore characters you're supposed to care about, but I feel like specific character(s) centric episodes seem to be the way to go in ensemble shows like these. Of course you don't have the benefit of flashbacks like Lost, but I feel like that show was able to draw you in because a whole "centric" episode allows you to not only get material and screentime for your character, but actual depth. I'm not saying it would be limited to just one character or that we'd have to learn about their past through flashbacks...not at all. But just focus on a couple of character and follow their interactions throughout the day or the tasks they're involved in to give us some meatier character development to enjoy. For instance, Darryl has become one of the more intriguing characters this season. Since he's not constantly in fear, or stuck in a dark place emotionally even with the loss of his brother, he actually breathes life and brightness into each scene he's in. I'd like to explore some of the characters more so you could find more likability or personality. Maybe that's part of what makes Darryl an entertaining character to follow at this point. He actually has a very real, defined, distinct personality and it makes him interesting. Think of all of the other characters and how so many of them are just sullen, downtrodden and pushing through. I mean, I get it...bleak times = bleak emotions. But surely these people have more personality that could shine through. In that way I feel Glen has been underwritten this season. He was one of the standouts based on personality last season and I feel like he's kind of just camping out on the fringes of the show right now. This episode at least gave him some fun interactions with Maggie, though.

    I'll stop there as I could just keep going and going. I get long winded at times, but with so many characters it's fun to analyze them and form opinions on them all. Right now I just wish my opinions of them weren't that 90% of them are boring people!

    Actually, and sorry cause I just said I was going to stop, but that sparks a thought into mind. In a show like Lost you had action and mysteries to drive the show forward, but it wasn't the ONLY way the show and characters were driven forward. Their interactions and relationships with each other eventually became even more important and motivating than whatever action came about in the show. At this point The Walking Dead and its characters are driven forward solely by the action and outside circumstances. In Lost you had entire episodes where there was no progress in terms of action or movement...these episodes could have been very boring...with the people literally staying in the same place the entire episode. Instead bringing the characters to the forefront and letting them tell the story often made some of those episodes the most intriguing of all. Here in The Walking Dead we have an episode where everyone is stationary except for a brief search for Sophia and a brief trip to the pharmacy, and people are pointing this out (rightfully so) as the slowest episode yet and bringing the show near a stand still. It's too bad, cause it doesn't have to be that way. You would hope the show could survive with the group finding a base camp to live out of for a very long time...perhaps even a season or two, but since this show is driven by action we just know that circumstances (or walkers) will arrive that will force them to continue their nomadic existence.

    I'd actually like to see them have a solid base camp set up that held up and didn't force them to move on, and to see if you could still have a very entertaining show that incorporates the walking dead.

    Okay, now I seriously will stop. Such a long post. My apologies to all for my rambling :P

    Posted by Brando, 08/11/2011 3:39pm (7 years ago)

  • Hi Robin.

    I didn't get a chance to comment on last week's show but much of what I was feeling then can be applied to last night's episode.

    After praising the show for pacing itself slowly and organically a couple of weeks back things have now almost ground to a halt. Last week I felt there was too much needless repetition of how the characters were feeling. I understand the sense of worthlessness that they (Rick, in particular) must be feeling, and their need to question the value of continuing on in this new world. God knows, I feel like that some days myself without the need for a zombie apocalypse :-) But you should really only need to address this once in a single 40 minute episode of a TV show.

    I do understand what they're doing (I think). In the context of a split-season TV show, you make the first half slow and build the drama in the last couple of episodes of that half, finishing off with a big cliff-hanger and the promise that the second half of the season will be action-packed and relentless. The show certainly needs focus, and while I have praised the way that it lacks the usual plot devices and mechanics in the past, the viewer still needs to feel that the characters are going somewhere, that they have a goal. Hopefully, we'll get into the season-arc properly next week.

    Posted by Tariq Latif, 07/11/2011 3:07pm (7 years ago)

  • I was out of the country for a while and watched eps 2-4 tonight. I really enjoyed 2 and 3 even though they had some problems, but episode 4 mostly seemed like filler.

    Not a ton to really discuss since not a whole lot happened, but I still can't get over how often the characters are acting like they aren't part of a zombie apocalypse. Glenn rides into town with Maggie and doesn't even have a weapon in his hand, Daryl wanders around the woods alone, and Hershel bans guns from the property (!). Just the concept of banning guns when there are millions of flesh eating zombies running around is ridiculous. I said this before, but how does everybody not have a gun and a tire iron on them at all times at this point?

    I'm also ready for the Sophia storyline to move on a little bit. How many episodes are they going to spend wandering the woods looking for her? I'm definitely getting a bit impatient with that.

    Having said all that, this show is great fun and I look forward to every episode even if it does irritate me at times.

    Just finished listening to your podcasts for eps 2 and 3. Great stuff as always.

    Posted by Aaron, 07/11/2011 4:30am (7 years ago)

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